Clip can make your bike electric in seconds without tools, batteries included

We need them with autonomous riding, to ride by themselves, 'cos who the f. needs them anyway?

VitalyT said:

We need them with autonomous riding, to ride by themselves, 'cos who the f. needs them anyway?

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In my city I see so many retired people out riding in groups in reserves and nice off road paths. So ebikes are boon for them. They don't have range fear for their own strength or if wind comes up. Some will will only use a tiny bit of assistance on getting to speed, others will have much more assistance , so they can all go the same speed

E bikes are like resistance bands to help someone do a pullup. After a month of cycling, their own knees, legs will be doing much more of the work. Ask me how I know. I got a 2nd hand ebike cheap ( my cousins wanted me to pick up one they brought for their dad, seller had a 2nd one , so grabbed it ) I use it to cycle to gym, good exercise. If I have it on a low setting , I use very little power

4-6 miles?! Though I thought the Swych was rather limited too TBH
It also looks like something that is gonna mess with your handling

4-6 miles for $500 ..... talk about a rip off!

Belgeek said:

500$ for 6 miles? Keep your money...

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Are you kidding? I'll take that. 6 miles is a solid distance for a single charge. I would spend the extra $100 for the 12mile range though.

Uncle Al said:

4-6 miles for $500 ..... talk about a rip off!

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Your opinion. I think this is great!

I've owned an electric bicycle and really enjoyed it but the big problem with expensive bicycles in cities is that they get stolen. It would be even worse with expensive things that can easily be removed from your bicycle. This would mean you'd have to carry the motor and battery into your work place.

This idea reminds me very much of the original VeloSoleX. It's a French bicycle powered by a tiny petrol motor over the front wheel. The original was noisier, kind of cute and had a range of over 60 miles. They were first produced just after WWII and you still occasionally see them on French roads.

kiwigraeme said:

In my city I see so many retired people out riding in groups in reserves and nice off road paths. So ebikes are boon for them. They don't have range fear for their own strength or if wind comes up. Some will will only use a tiny bit of assistance on getting to speed, others will have much more assistance , so they can all go the same speed

E bikes are like resistance bands to help someone do a pullup. After a month of cycling, their own knees, legs will be doing much more of the work. Ask me how I know. I got a 2nd hand ebike cheap ( my cousins wanted me to pick up one they brought for their dad, seller had a 2nd one , so grabbed it ) I use it to cycle to gym, good exercise. If I have it on a low setting , I use very little power

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Not that this would be the solution, but in the city in Germany that I live in (pop 150,000), there are a similar number of bikes as there are of cars. And 20% of those bikes are e-bikes, and that percentage grows every year. It's a great way to fight climate change in the transport sector and it keeps your citizens healthy at the same time by fighting obesity.

I'd rather have a separate ebike than having a clip-on one especially on a front fork which will alter the steering and handling significantly as it will be front heavy.

"Clip can make your bike electric in seconds without tools, batteries included"

Nothing but exploitation of Real Bikers who cycle for health and competition....! Leave us alone...!

netman said:

"Clip can make your bike electric in seconds without tools, batteries included"

Nothing but exploitation of Real Bikers who cycle for health and competition....! Leave us alone...!

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Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

matthisd said:

Not that this would be the solution, but in the city in Germany that I live in (pop 150,000), there are a similar number of bikes as there are of cars. And 20% of those bikes are e-bikes, and that percentage grows every year. It's a great way to fight climate change in the transport sector and it keeps your citizens healthy at the same time by fighting obesity.

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Yeah in 1988 got a bike from the hostel I was staying at, and cycled some nice paths in Hanover ( along the river etc ) - the lesser city to Hamburg , but as a tourist liked Hanover.
Think there is a town in Finland really made for cycling , as overpasses and underpasses across standard roads. Lots more would cycle if feel safe, some countries not much respect for cyclists

Respect has to be earned. In some places cyclists run down pedestrians, run red lights and ignore stop signs and speed limits.

mbk34 said:

I've owned an electric bicycle and really enjoyed it but the big problem with expensive bicycles in cities is that they get stolen. It would be even worse with expensive things that can easily be removed from your bicycle. This would mean you'd have to carry the motor and battery into your work place.

This idea reminds me very much of the original VeloSoleX. It's a French bicycle powered by a tiny petrol motor over the front wheel. The original was noisier, kind of cute and had a range of over 60 miles. They were first produced just after WWII and you still occasionally see them on French roads.

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That is very defeatist, fear-monger like thinking. It's a very poor reason for not adopting/buying something that would be an excellent improvement to the way someone lives.

ZedRM said:

That is very defeatist, fear-monger like thinking. It's a very poor reason for not adopting/buying something that would be an excellent improvement to the way someone lives.

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I think it's simply realistic but obviously it depends on where you live. I'm fairly certain that in London (where I live) having an $800 item that's easily removable attached to your bike won't last the afternoon. I used to own an electric bicycle and quite enjoyed using it until it disappeared. I currently use an electric unicycle (a sort of wheel with 2 footplates and the motor and batteries inside). It has a range of about 40 miles, a top speed of about 40mph and costs almost nothing to charge. It's huge advantage is that it comes with me when I get to my destination as it has an extending trolley handle. It's disadvantages are that it's illegal in this country and that it's a fairly dangerous form of transport. I'm currently thinking of retiring to the coast where I fully expect a very ordinary bicycle to become my favourite form of transport.

mbk34 said:

I think it's simply realistic but obviously it depends on where you live.

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This can be said about anything one takes out in public. There is not a single significant difference between this device and the bike itself, and most people take the time and precaution of securing their bikes from theft.

ZedRM said:

This can be said about anything one takes out in public. There is not a single significant difference between this device and the bike itself, and most people take the time and precaution of securing their bikes from theft.

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The difference: a bike can be chained up but this device is easily removable and it's worth $500. I can't see how you could secure this device so you'd have to take it off and carry it into work (it weighs ~ 9lbs).

mbk34 said:

The difference: a bike can be chained up but this device is easily removable and it's worth $500. I can't see how you could secure this device so you'd have to take it off and carry it into work (it weighs ~ 9lbs).

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Let's not pick at nits. First off, you don't know that the device can't be secured, such is not detailed in the article. Second, even if such is not a part of the design, adapting it to be securable would not be difficult and would take only a little planning. Finally, the benefit and utility of this device far out-weights the effort that would be needed to facilitate proper securability and such should be a part of the plan of action for anyone interested.

So again, your point isn't very forward thinking and is easily overcome.

6 miles... For 600 bucks... Not sold.

toooooot said:

6 miles... For 600 bucks... Not sold.

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First, the $600 price gets you their 12mile battery pack model.
Second, at 600 recharge cycles, it becomes 600 x 12 miles. That's 7200 miles for $600.

Yeah, 7200miles for $600. You were saying?

ZedRM said:

Let's not pick at nits. First off, you don't know that the device can't be secured, such is not detailed in the article. Second, even if such is not a part of the design, adapting it to be securable would not be difficult and would take only a little planning. Finally, the benefit and utility of this device far out-weights the effort that would be needed to facilitate proper securability and such should be a part of the plan of action for anyone interested.

So again, your point isn't very forward thinking and is easily overcome.

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I honestly don't understand your perspective (unless you've invested in the company). You can buy complete ebikes for this sort of money. They'd have much larger batteries, be much more efficient and offer much larger ranges.

The 6 mile range quoted would be going from 100% charge down to 0% but that's usually not good for battery packs. Best policy with all these batteries is to keep the battery charge between 20% and 80% of full capacity otherwise you're degrading the battery. That would mean you'd be getting a realistic range of 3 and a half miles. On a cold day it would be much less.

In the article above it states that this device is easily removable which means it can easily be stolen. Even a cursory glance at the images shows that it can't be easily secured. On the other hand I can't quite picture anyone wanting to steal this.

I should quickly say I'm not against electric vehicles. I've owned an ebike and enjoyed it. I currently ride an electric unicycle for shorter trips and will likely by an EV when I replace my ICE car.

mbk34 said:

I honestly don't understand your perspective

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Oh, clearly!

mbk34 said:

(unless you've invested in the company).

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Wow. That's grasping at straws. And as you're clearly arguing ego instead of debating merit I'll keep the rest of this post brief.

mbk34 said:

You can buy complete ebikes for this sort of money.

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No, you can not. And it is disingenuous at best, dishonest at worst, to make that claim. However, you've missed the point, so let's spell it out: This device is for people who have an existing bike and want to ADD electric functionality to it. See how that works?